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Baron and Losey’s New Movie: “e-Discovery: Did You Know?”

February 4, 2010

Here it is, as promised, my “movie” with Jason R. Baron. Turn on HD (upper right corner of the viewer) and view in full screen mode (lower right corner) for best results. Also, suggest you play the music loud on quality speakers.

e-Discovery: Did You Know?
e-Discovery: Did You Know?
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This 6 minute 42 second video, entitled e-discovery: Did you know?, premiered yesterday in New York at LegalTech. It was shown just before my heated debate with Jason Baron and Jeane Thomas on search methods, critiqued by none other than Judge Paul Grimm. It appeared to me that Judge Grimm’s comments all strongly favored my positions, although we are still awaiting a formal ruling. No doubt a 128 page opinion will be issued soon after he has had an chance to reflect upon the merits of the Go Fish v. Where’s Waldo debate.

You are free to embed this movie in your web and otherwise use it however you like. It makes a good introduction for presentations and CLEs on technology or electronic discovery. It works best in a dark room with good speakers at high volume. I’ll also add it to YouTube soon, for further free distribution. For more information on the movie and how it came about see the interview that Jason and I gave to The Posse List: Putting the “tsunami of e-data” in perspective.

Did you know it took Jason and me six months to research and put this together? So, if you have a reaction to this movie, hopefully a good one, please do us a favor and leave a comment below.

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    Ralph Losey is the lawyer, writer, ESI search designer, and teacher behind the e-Discovery Team blog. Ralph has been practicing law since 1980 and playing with computers and online communications since 1978. He is a partner in a major national law firm. He holds the highest AV peer rating by Martindale Hubbell and has 70 published opinions to his credit. Ralph is the proud father of two children, Eva Grossman, and Adam Losey, an e-discovery lawyer, and best of all, husband since 1973 to Molly Friedman Losey, a mental health counselor in Winter Park.

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    1. Electronically stored information is potentially discoverable under Fed. R. Civ. P. 34 or its state equivalents. Organizations must properly preserve electronically stored information that can reasonably be anticipated to be relevant to litigation.

    2. When balancing the cost, burden, and need for electronically stored information, courts and parties should apply the proportionality standard embodied in Fed. R. Civ. P. 26(b)(2)(C) and its state equivalents, which require consideration of the technological feasibility and realistic costs of preserving, retrieving, reviewing, and producing electronically stored information, as well as the nature of the litigation and the amount in controversy.

    3. Parties should confer early in discovery regarding the preservation and production of electronically stored information when these matters are at issue in the litigation and seek to agree on the scope of each party’s rights and responsibilities.

    4. Discovery requests for electronically stored information should be as clear as possible, while responses and objections to discovery should disclose the scope and limits of the production.

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    6. Responding parties are best situated to evaluate the procedures, methodologies, and technologies appropriate for preserving and producing their own electronically stored information.

    7. The requesting party has the burden on a motion to compel to show that the responding party’s steps to preserve and produce relevant electronically stored information were inadequate.

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    9. Absent a showing of special need and relevance, a responding party should not be required to preserve, review, or produce deleted, shadowed, fragmented, or residual electronically stored information.

    10. A responding party should follow reasonable procedures to protect privileges and objections in connection with the production of electronically stored information.

    11. A responding party may satisfy its good faith obligation to preserve and produce relevant electronically stored information by using electronic tools and processes, such as data sampling, searching, or the use of selection criteria, to identify data reasonably likely to contain relevant information.

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