6 thoughts on “Are We the Barbarians at the Gate?”

  1. Dear Ralph,

    I’m a French digital forensic practitioner. I’ve been recently (about one year) involved in some e-discovery processes, of very different sizes. In some cases, the dispute was originating from the USA and then spread over to Europe, both in Common and Civil Law countries.

    In order to circumvent as much as possible the “catch-22” problem, a local e-discovery team was setup for France (and I imagine for each Civil Law country). The local team was drawn to comply with the laws of the country and the relevant evidences were not leaving the country. In addition to that, special measures were taken, like the enrollment of sworn digital forensic practitioners, which means recognized by the French legal system.

    I’ve read the paper from the Sedona Conference, which is remarkably written and documented, and then your blog articles. I understand that even with a good deal of precautions such e-discovery processes have many flaws. I concur that a change in the privacy protection in the US could solve most of the issues, but I don’t think it likely to happen soon. In the meantime, the use of the legal means proposed in the Hague Convention should be sought.

    For those interested (and reading French) the Supreme Court of France is there: http://www.lexinter.net/JPTXT4/JP2005/recherche_de_renseignements_tendant_a_la_constitution_de_preuves_dans_une_procedure_etrangere.htm

    I must say that e-discovery is a very challenging topic, and I really like it. And it does not impede me to continue my hard-forensic investigations on small scale devices, which are light-years from e-discovery.

    As a final remark, the French system has something similar to e-discovery which is called “assistance huissier”, but it works only for France I think.

  2. Another fascinating post. I realize I’m very late to the table here, but I’m curious about something… You quote Ken Withers as saying that the strict European approach to data privacy “may be giving way to a more pratical approach that recognizes the need to have some reasonable methods for moving data.” Do you know why he believes this to be the case? It would seem to me that one of the major messages of this post is that the “Christopher X” case is a signal that the French, at least, take their rules very seriously and are not planning on compromising them any time soon. Quite the opposite, in fact. Is there something going on in the UK and/or elsewhere in Europe that would suggest otherwise?

  3. A. Rein is quite right that the French take their blocking statute quite seriously, as the Christopher X case demonstrates. However, we need to distinguish between the French court’s enforcement of their criminal statute, on the one hand, and the work that EU data protection officers are doing to find reasonable accommodation with the need for data transfers in the ordinary course of business. I am reminded of a British appellate court decision that reflected practical reality, Durant v. Financial Services Authority, [2003] EWCA Civ 1746 (Supreme Court of Judicature Court of Appeal, Civil Division), in which the court states at Para. 28: “Mere mention of the data subject in a document held by a data controller does not necessarily amount to his personal data” conferring the rights enumerated in the Act. Two more recent British court decisions involving cross-border electronic discovery issues don’t even mention the Act: Digicel Ltd v. Cable & Wireless Plc, [2008] EWHC 2522 (Ch) (considering the adequacy of a party’s automated search fore relevant documents) and Hedrich v. Standard Ban London Ltd [2008] EWCA Civ 905 (considering the duty of a solicitor to make inquiries into his client’s electronic disclosures). At least one European data protection officer has publicly expressed the view that the Sedona ‘Framework’ paper is a positive step towards a dialogue. So I do not think that the European data privacy bar operate as a per se prohibition on civil discovery, let alone data transfers in the ordinary course of business. That said, there is still a cultural divide between the US and European attitudes toward data protection and privacy that needs to be bridged, as well as tremendous skepticism of the American civil litigation system on the part of Europeans and a tendency of American lawyers and judges to be dismissive of European attitudes.

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