From Ships to Silicon: Personhood and Evidence in the Age of AI

October 6, 2025

Ralph Losey, October 6, 2025.

The law has long adapted to include new participants. First, ships could be sued as if they were people. Later, corporations became legal entities, and more recently even rivers have been declared “persons” with rights. Now we move from ships to silicon: artificial intelligence. A new era of generative AI models can produce words, images, and decisions that resemble the marks of inner awareness. Whether that resemblance is illusion or something more, judges and lawyers will soon confront it not only in legal philosophy and AI seminars, but in motions practice and evidentiary hearings.

A courtroom scene featuring a holographic representation of a human figure between two arguing lawyers, while a judge observes from behind a bench.
After argument of counsel the Arbitrator permitted the AI to testify subject to post-trial motions to strike. All images by Ralph Losey using AI.

The right question is not whether AI is truly conscious, but whether its testimony can be tested with the same evidentiary rigor we apply to human witnesses and corporate entities. Can its words be authenticated, cross-examined, and fairly weighed in the balance of justice?

Courts today are only beginning to brush against AI — sanctioning lawyers for fake citations, issuing standing orders on disclosure of AI use, and bracing for the wave of deepfake video and image evidence. The next frontier will be AI outputs that resemble testimony, raising questions of authentication and admissibility. If those outputs enter the record, courts may need to consider supporting materials such as system logs or diagnostics — not yet common in litigation but already discussed in the scholarship as possible foundations for reliability.

This article follows that path. It begins with the history of legal personhood, then turns to the rules of evidence, and finally examines the personhood and consciousness debate. Along the way, it offers a few practical tools that judges and legal-techs can start using to handle AI in the courtroom. The aim is modest but urgent: to help the law take its first steady steps from ships to silicon, from abstract algorithms to evidence that demands to be weighed.


A holographic representation of a human-like figure testifying in a courtroom, with a judge observing and lawyers seated at a table using laptops.
AI witness testifying on direct exam. Opposing counsel wonders how the AI will do on her cross-exam.

When the AI is Allowed to Speak

Picture a deposition in complex commercial litigation. Counsel asks the sworn AI witness the most routine of questions: “Can you identify this document which has been marked for the record as Exhibit A?” Without hesitation, the system responds: “Yes, I can. It is part of my cognitive loop.” On its face the response sounds absurd. Machines are not conscious beings, are they? Yet the behaviors behind such a technical statement — goal-directed reasoning, persistent memory, and self-referential diagnostics — are already present in advanced AI systems.

The central risk is not that machines suddenly wake up with human-like awareness. It is that courts, lawyers, judges, arbitrators, and juries will be confronted with outputs that look like intentional human statements. When a human witness identifies an exhibit, counsel ask how and probe the witness’s memory, perception, and possible bias. When an AI says “this document is part of my cognitive loop,” a new type of cross-examination is needed: What loop are you referring to? How is that a part of you? Who are you? Are you not just a tool of a human? Shouldn’t the human you work with be testifying instead of you?

Those questions go to the heart of the credibility problem. Cross-examination works because a human witness can be pressed on perception, memory, or bias. When the witness is an AI, there is no memory in the human sense, no sensory perception of the world, and no personal motive to expose. The answers to “What loop? How is it part of you? Who are you?” may have to come not from the witness itself, but from logs, audit trails, and technical experts who can lay a proper foundation for AI testimony. Counsel on both sides will need to be creative, asking new kinds of questions. How does one prepare an AI witness for cross-examination like this? What objections should be raised? How should a judge respond? At first, there will inevitably be trial and error, appeals, and rehearings. The old boxes just don’t fit anymore.

A lawyer questions a digital, holographic AI representation in a courtroom setting, while a judge and others observe.
AI’s speech is becoming emotive and apologetic on cross-examine as a hostile witness.

Legal Personhood: from Ships, to Rivers to Citizens United

Law has long been pragmatic in its treatment of nonhuman actors as legal persons. See e.g. Wikipedia:

In law, a legal person is any person or legal entity that can do the things a human person is usually able to do in law – such as enter into contracts, sue and be sued, own property, and so on.

Roman law, collegia (guilds or associations) functioned as legal entities capable of owning property, contracting, and suing or being sued. During the Medieval Age the common law of admiralty started treating ships as juridical res, subject to in rem suits, even though no one believed the ships were alive. See The Siren, 74 U.S. 152 (1868). The Siren concerned a famous iron-hulled side-wheel steamship named Siren, which the US Navy finally captured in Charleston Harbor in 1865. It was a private trading ship that had run past the Union blockade 33-times, more than any other in history. During capture the Siren’s crew abandoned ship and Union sailors claimed it as a prize of war. The Union sailor crew-owners later accidentally ran into and sunk another ship in New York and that led to the Siren being sued in rem for damages caused its tort.

A historical painting of the steamship 'Siren' sailing on the ocean, showcasing its paddlewheel, masts, and smoke emission.
The Siren, a famous Civil War blockade runner and later US Supreme Court opinion. Fake AI image by Ralph Losey.

In the United States, the expansion of corporate personhood began in the late 19th century. Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad, 118 U.S. 394 (1886) where, via a mere reporter’s headnote, corporations were cast as “persons” under the Fourteenth Amendment.

More recently, juridical recognition has extended beyond human institutions to natural entities: New Zealand’s Whanganui River was declared a legal person under the Te Awa Tupua Act 2017; Spain’s Law 19/2022 conferred legal status upon the Mar Menor lagoon, supposedly affirmed by Spain’s Constitutional Court in 2024; and Ecuador’s 2008 constitutional reforms enshrined rights of nature, allowing ecosystems standing in constitutional litigation.

In American constitutional doctrine, the controversial Citizens United v. FEC decision (558 U.S. 310 (2010)) further illustrates the elevated legal status of corporations. It held that corporate expenditures in elections are protected speech under the First Amendment. See e.g., The Brennan Center’s Citizens United Explained (provides a detailed critical account of both the decision’s legal reasoning and its broader democratic consequences). Also see: Asaf Raz, Taking Personhood Seriously (Columbia Business Law Review, Vol. 2023 No. 2, March 6, 2024).

These examples show that legal personhood has never been limited to human beings. No one thought ships could think, or rivers could speak, or corporations had beating hearts. Yet all have been treated as persons when it served broader purposes of justice, commerce, or environmental protection. Legal personhood is, at bottom, a policy tool — a fiction the law deploys when the benefits outweigh the costs. If the law has extended personhood in these ways, it is not too much of a stretch to ask whether AI could be next. That debate is already underway.

A comic-style illustration featuring elements related to legal personhood, including an old ship with a 'Court Seizure' flag, a modern skyscraper labeled 'Incorporated,' a river with a 'Legal Person' sign, and an abstract digital representation of a human face, symbolizing the evolution of legal recognition from tangible entities to artificial intelligence.
For better or for worse, the Law has always evolved with the times.

The Debate Over AI Personhood

Legal scholars, ethicists, and policymakers are deeply divided on this issue, and the arguments on both sides are instructive for anyone imagining what might happen when an AI “takes the witness chair.”

Arguments for AI personhood. Proponents point to precedent. Legal personhood has never been limited to natural persons. Corporations, associations, municipalities, and even natural entities like rivers have been granted legal standing. If a corporation — a legal fiction with no body or mind — can be a person, then it is not unthinkable that a sufficiently advanced AI might one day be treated similarly. Advocates argue that doing so could help fill accountability gaps when AI systems act autonomously in ways not directly traceable to programmers, operators, or owners. Others look ahead to the possibility of artificial general intelligence (AGI) with traits akin to self-awareness. If AI were to achieve something approaching subjective awareness or moral reasoning, then denying rights could be seen as ethically exploitative.

The judicial perspective. An especially thoughtful treatment comes from former SDNY District Judge Katherine B. Forrest in The Ethics and Challenges of Legal Personhood for AI, Yale Law Journal Forum (April 2024). Forrest examines AI’s increasing cognitive abilities and the challenges they will pose for courts, raising concerns about model drift, emergent capabilities, and ultra vires defenses. Her analysis grounds the personhood debate not in philosophy but in the daily realities of judging.

She predicts that while early AI cases will involve “relatively straightforward” questions of tort liability and intellectual property, the deeper ethical dilemmas will not be far behind. As she puts it:

Courts will be dealing with a number of complicated AI questions within the next several years. The first ones will, I predict, be interesting but relatively straightforward: tort issues dealing with accountability and intellectual property issues relating to who made the tool, with what, and whether they have obligations to compensate others for the generated value. If an AI tool associated with a company commits a crime (for instance, engaging in unlawful market manipulation), we have dealt with that before by holding a corporation responsible. But if the AI tool has strayed far from its origins and taken steps that no one wanted, predicted, or condoned, can the same accountability rules apply? These are hard questions with which we will have to grapple.

Forrest then pushes further, highlighting the inevitable collision between doctrine and ethics:

The ethical questions will be by far the hardest for judges. Unlike legislators to whom abstract issues will be posed, judges will be faced with factual records in which actual harm is alleged to be occurring at that moment, or imminently. There will be a day when a judge is asked to declare that some form of AI has rights. The petitioners will argue that the AI exhibits awareness and sentience at or beyond the level of many or all humans, that the AI can experience harm and have an awareness of cruelty. Respondents will argue that personhood is reserved for persons, and AI is not a person. Petitioners will point to corporations as paper fictions that today have more rights than any AI, and point out the changing, mutable notion of personhood. Respondents will point to efficiencies and economics as the basis for corporate laws that enable fictive personhood and point to similarities in humankind and a line of evolution in thought that while at times entirely in the wrong, are at least applied to humans. Petitioners will then point to animals that receive certain basic rights to be free from types of cruelty. The judge will have to decide.

Forrest’s conclusion underscores the urgency of the debate: these issues will not remain theoretical for long. Courts will face them in live cases, on real records, with harms alleged in the here and now.

Her article also offers a striking observation about Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Org., 597 U.S. 215, 276 (2022) noting that it left decisions as to when personhood attaches to the states. By doing so, it opened the door to highly variable juridical interpretations of personhood. As Forrest notes, the decision eliminated any requirement of human developmental, cognitive, or situational awareness as a prerequisite for bestowing significant rights, while at the same time diminishing the self-determination — and therefore liberty — of women. That framework, she suggests, could ironically be repurposed as a basis for extending rights to a human creation: AI. If the law does not demand awareness as a condition of personhood, why exclude machines?

A futuristic robotic figure sitting at a desk, holding a pen, next to a gavel, with a background featuring a digital scale of justice and an AI symbol.
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it is probably a duck.

Arguments against AI personhood. Forrest discusses both sides of the AI personhood debate. Critics of AI personhood argue that it lacks the qualities that justify recognition as a legal person. Unlike humans, AI systems have no consciousness, no perception, and no subjective experiences. They process data but do not feel. Treating a machine as a legal person, they warn, could blur the line between humans and tools in ways that erode human dignity. Others worry about liability arbitrage, with corporations offloading blame onto AI “shells” that have no assets and no capacity to make victims whole.  That divide is already echoed in the academic literature. See Abeba Birhane, et al., “Debunking Robot Rights Metaphysically, Ethically, and Legally” (2024).

Alternative approaches. Because both extremes raise serious problems, lawmakers and scholars have considered middle-ground options. The European Parliament once floated the idea of “electronic personhood” for robots but ultimately rejected it. The EU AI Act, adopted in 2024, takes a different path: treating certain AI systems as regulated entities subject to logging, oversight, and human accountability, while stopping short of personhood. Other proposals focus on enhancing corporate liability for harms caused by AI or creating a new, limited legal category that acknowledges AI’s unique features without elevating it to full personhood. As Asaf Raz has observed in Taking Personhood Seriously (Columbia Business Law Review, March 2024), legal personhood has always been instrumental, “a policy tool rather than a metaphysical judgment,” and the question is how best to deploy that tool in light of modern challenges.

The Citizens United shadow. In the United States, debates over AI personhood unfold in the long shadow of Citizens United v. FEC, 558 U.S. 310 (2010). By extending First Amendment protections to corporate political spending, the Supreme Court illustrated how powerful the fiction of corporate personhood can become once entrenched. The Brennan Center’s “Citizens United Explained (2019) offers a detailed critique of that ruling and its consequences for democracy. For many, it stands as a cautionary tale: once nonhuman entities gain even limited rights, those rights may expand in ways courts never intended.


Where courts stand today. For now, these debates remain in the academic and policy realm. No judge has yet been asked to declare an AI system a legal person. What courts do face, however, are more immediate evidentiary challenges: AI-generated outputs, filings drafted with the help of large language models, and the specter of deepfakes masquerading as authentic evidence. Whether or not AI is ever granted personhood, judges must already decide how to handle these new kinds of artifacts under the familiar rules of evidence.

A humanoid robot in a courtroom setting, wearing a suit, appears confused while holding a stack of papers and scratching its head.
Sure acts like a person, an eccentric, sometimes genius sometimes forgetful, but always well-spoken.

From Philosophy to Procedure: Evidence First

We have traced the history of legal personhood and surveyed the personhood debate. But speculation only goes so far. Courts today are beginning to face a more immediate question: when AI outputs appear in discovery or trial, can they be admitted as evidence? From the fake citations in Mata v. Avianca to standing orders warning lawyers not to submit unverified AI text, judges are already being forced to draw early lines. To keep cases on track, they need tools that are practical, conservative, and rooted in existing evidentiary doctrine.

Here are three such tools for judges, litigators, and legal technologists to consider and refine:

  • ALAP: AI Log Authentication Protocol
  • Replication Hearing Protocol
  • Judicial Findings Template for AI Evidence

Introduction. These are small steps, not sweeping reforms. They echo the serious issues introduced by Judge Paul Grimm and Professors Maura Grossman and Gordon Cormack in Artif icial Intelligence as Evidence, 19 Nw. J. Tech. & Intell. Prop. 9 (2021). That article, though written before generative AI emerged, remains indispensable.

As Grimm, Grossman, and Cormack put it:

The problem that the AI was developed to resolve — and the output it produces — must ‘fit’ with what is at issue in the litigation. How was the AI developed, and by whom? Was the validity and reliability of the AI sufficiently tested? Is the manner in which the AI operates ‘explainable’ so that it can be understood by counsel, the court, and the jury? What is the risk of harm if AI evidence of uncertain trustworthiness is admitted?” (Id. at 97–105).

They stress two core concepts: validity (whether the system does what it was designed to do) and reliability (whether it produces consistent results in similar circumstances). Those concepts have guided courts for years in assessing scientific and expert evidence. They should also guide us here.

For more recent thinking by Grimm and Grossman, see e.g: The GPTJUDGE: Justice in a Generative AI World, Duke Law & Technology Review (Oct. 2023); Judicial Approaches to Acknowledged and Unacknowledged AI-Generated Evidence (May 2025), which addresses deepfakes and recommends using expert testimony to ground admissibility rulings. Also see, Losey, R., WARNING: The Evidence Committee Will Not Change the Rules to Help Protect Against Deep Fake Video Evidence (e-Discovery Team, Dec, 2024).

A futuristic portrait of a woman with robotic features, showcasing a blend of human and artificial intelligence elements, set against a modern, technological backdrop.
Picture of Ralph’s friend, Professor Maura Grossman, real or fake?

Tool 1: ALAP — AI Log Authentication Protocol

Purpose & Rationale. ALAP (AI Log Authentication Protocol) is designed to meet the authentication requirement of Federal Rule of Evidence 901(b)(9), which permits authentication of evidence produced by “a process or system” if the proponent shows that the process produces “an accurate result.”

Checklist. Under ALAP, the producing party should provide:

  • Model and version identification;
  • Configuration record (data sources, parameters, safety settings);
  • Prompt and tool call logs;
  • Guardrail or filter events;
  • Execution environment (hardware/software state);
  • Custodian declaration tying the output to this configuration.

Support & Authority.


Tool 2: Replication Hearing Protocol

Purpose & Rationale. When a human testifies, cross-examination probes perception, memory, and bias. AI has none of those faculties, but it does have vulnerabilities: instability, sensitivity to prompts, and embedded bias in training data. A replication hearing provides a substitute.

The goal is not to achieve exact duplication of output — which may be impossible with evolving, probabilistic models — but to test whether the system is substantially similar in its answers when asked the same or variant questions. In this sense, replication hearings align with the reliability gatekeeping function under Daubert and Kumho Tire. See Daubert v. Merrell Dow Pharms., Inc., 509 U.S. 579, 589 (1993); Kumho Tire Co. v. Carmichael, 526 U.S. 137, 152 (1999). They also align with the Evidence Rule governing expert testimony, where “perfection is not required.” Fed. R. Evid. 702, Advisory Committee Note to 2023 Amendment (last two sentences of the 2023 Comment).

For example, I prompted ChatGPT4o as a legacy model on September 28, 2025 as follows: “Provide a one sentence description of artificial intelligence.” It responded by generating the following text: “Artificial intelligence is the field of computer science dedicated to creating systems capable of performing tasks that typically require human intelligence, such as reasoning, learning, perception, and decision-making.

I provided the same prompt one minute later to the current model, ChatGPT-5, and received this response: “Artificial intelligence is the branch of computer science that designs systems capable of performing tasks that typically require human intelligence, such as reasoning, learning, problem-solving, and language understanding.”

GPT-5 is supposed to be smarter, and its answer reflects that, a little, but is, to me at least, substantially similar to the response of the prior model, GPT-4o. One says is a “field” of computer science, the other a “branch.” One says “reasoning, learning, perception, and decision-making” the other “reasoning, learning, problem-solving, and language understanding.”

An illustration depicting a courtroom scene with a humanoid robot sitting as a witness, flanked by a female lawyer and a judge, with observers in the background.
You say potato I say potahto. Let’s call the whole thing off.

Protocol. At its core, a replication hearing should:

  • Lock the environment as closely as possible. The producing party must document the version of the system, its configuration, and parameters in place at the time of the original output. If that version is no longer available, the proponent must show why and explain what changes have occurred since.
  • Re-run the prompts in a controlled setting. The same queries should be submitted, alongside small variations, to test whether answers remain consistent in meaning. You could do repeat runs to circumvent the changing models issue as part of your tests, just as I did above.
  • Log everything. Inputs, outputs, timestamps, and environment details should be captured to permit later review. And be prepared to produce them, so do not include private attorney comments in such a log, such as “Oh no, this will kill our case is we disclose it.”)
  • Compare for stability of meaning. The measure is not identical phrasing, but whether the AI provides answers that are effectively the same — the substance is consistent even if the wording differs.

Limitations & Judicial Discretion. Replication hearings are not a silver bullet. Models change, versions drift, and nondeterminism ensures some variation. They should be treated as a stress test, not an absolute guarantee. Consistent results support reliability; unraveling under modest variation reveals weakness. Judges should demand enough stability for adversarial testing and fair weight — but not perfection.

Support & Authority.

  • Fed. R. Evid. 702; Advisory Committee Note to 2023 Amendment:
    • Nothing in the amendment imposes any new, specific procedures. Rather, the amendment is simply intended to clarify that Rule 104(a)’s requirement applies to expert opinions under Rule 702. Similarly, nothing in the amendment requires the court to nitpick an expert’s opinion in order to reach a perfect expression of what the basis and methodology can support. The Rule 104(a) standard does not require perfection. On the other hand, it does not permit the expert to make claims that are unsupported by the expert’s basis and methodology.”
    • The Rule 104(a)Rule 104. Preliminary Questions. “(a) In General. The court must decide any preliminary question about whether a witness is qualified, a privilege exists, or evidence is admissible. In so deciding, the court is not bound by evidence rules, except those on privilege.”
  • Grimm & Grossman, Artificial Intelligence as Evidence, 19 Nw. J. Tech. & Intell. Prop. 1, 46, (2021).
  • Grimm & Grossman, Judicial Approaches to Acknowledged and Unacknowledged AI-Generated Evidence (May 2025) at pgs 152 and 153:
    • Finally, the court should set a deadline for an evidentiary hearing and/or argument on the admissibility of acknowledged AI-generated or potentially deepfake evidence sufficiently far in advance of trial to be able to carefully evaluate the evidence and challenges and to make a pretrial ruling.These issues are simply too complex and time consuming to attempt to address on the eve of or during trial.
    • Expert disclosures should be detailed and not conclusory and must address the evidentiary issues that judges have to consider when ruling on evidentiary challenges, such as the Rule 702 reliability factors and the Daubert factors that we have previously discussed.

An illustration depicting a courtroom scene with a gavel, a motion document, and a verification report, highlighting the process of legal verification.
Verified template report.

Tool 3: Judicial Findings Template for AI Evidence

Purpose & Rationale. Judges must leave a clear record showing how they handled AI evidence. Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 52(a) already requires findings of fact in bench trials. Extending that practice to AI evidence rulings will give appellate courts a meaningful basis for review.

Template Elements. A model order admitting or excluding AI evidence should, at minimum, address:

  1. Authentication Measures. Whether the proponent satisfied ALAP requirements — identification of the model/version, logs, custodian declaration, and reproducibility artifacts.
  2. Replication and Stability Findings. Whether the AI produced the same or substantially similar outputs under controlled re-runs; if not, why not.
  3. Bias and Sensitivity Testing. Whether adversarial prompts or variant inputs were tested, if reasonably possible and warranted under proportionality standards (Fed. R. Civ. P. 26(b)(1)).
  4. Protective Measures Applied. Any confidentiality safeguards imposed, including redactions, attorneys’-eyes-only restrictions, or non-waiver stipulations.
  5. Reliability Determination. The court’s conclusion: admit, admit with limits, or exclude — and the reasoning for that conclusion.

Support & Authority.

  • Fed. R. Civ. P. 52(a)(1); General Elec. Co. v. Joiner, 522 U.S. 136, 146 (1997) (emphasizing the abuse-of-discretion standard for evidentiary rulings but requiring a record of reasoning).
  • Grimm & Grossman, Judicial Approaches at pg. 154 suggest information helpful for a court to rule includes evidence on validity, reliability, error rates, bias, and in the special cases of AI fraud allegations, “the most likely source of evidence, what the content or metadata suggests about provenance or manipulation, and the probative value of the evidence versus the prejudice that could occur were the evidence to be admitted. unacknowledged AI-generated evidence, information about the most likely source of evidence, what the content or metadata suggests about provenance or manipulation, and the probative value of the evidence versus the prejudice that could occur were the evidence to be admitted.
A cheerful lawyer enthusiastically typing on a computer in a well-furnished office filled with law books and a smiling judge in the background.
Many fakes are obvious and don’t require expensive experts.

Speculation on Future AI Evidence Tools

So far, we have stayed close to the ground, offering simple tools that courts could adopt tomorrow morning without rewriting the Rules. But technology does not stay still. In two to four years — perhaps sooner — we will see generative AI systems like GPT-6 or GPT-7 deployed in ways that make today’s questions about “outputs” seem quaint. These systems may not only generate records but actually appear in court to give live testimony, answering questions in real time. They may prove to be very good at cross-exam — and finally stop apologizing. What happens to our starter tools in that future world?

Let us consider each in turn.

Tool 1. ALAP in the Age of GPT-7: From Logs to Consciousness Diaries

Today’s ALAP demands logs, prompts, and configurations. In the GPT-6/7 era, those logs may look more like consciousness diaries: running records of what the system “attended to,” what internal states it represented, and why it chose one answer over another. Already, researchers are experimenting with far greater clarity of process, with “chain of thought logging” and “explainable AI” systems that preserve a trace of the model’s reasoning. Dario Amodei Warns of the Danger of Black Box AI that No One Understands (e-Discovery Team, May 19, 2025) (discusses Amodei’s AI MRI proposal, voluntary transparency rules and export‑control “breathing room”). Future ALAP may require not just the external inputs and outputs, but the internal rationale artifacts, what path the AI followed inside its trillion-parameter brain.

A digital display showcasing an AI-generated MRI image of a humanoid figure with a glowing heart, highlighting anatomical details.
MRI of this AI shows it has a good heart.

Imagine a courtroom where the proponent of Exhibit A does not simply submit logs, but a time-stamped trace of the AI’s deliberations, a transcript of a digital mind. It will likely be very impressive in its complexity. A trillion-transformer transcript is beyond what a single human could fully comprehend, much less create. Yet it will be produced, it will be disclosed and attacked by opposing counsel and their own AI. They will look for holes and errors, as they should. If the proponent of Exhibit A has done their job correctly and tested the Ai generation fully before production, the opposition will find no errors of significance. Exhibit A will then be authenticated and admitted as accurate and reliable.

The legal arguments will then focus on the real disputes: the significance of Exhibit A, and how the AI-generated evidence applies to the facts and issues of the case. The weight of that evidence, and the ultimate outcome, will remain — as they should — in human hands: judge, arbitrator, and jury..

Tool 2: Replication Hearings: From Sandbox Runs to AI Depositions

Replication today means re-running queries in a sandbox to test stability. In the GPT-6/7 era, it may look more like a deposition of the AI itself. Counsel could pose variations of the same question live, in a controlled setting, to see whether the system answers consistently or unravels. Dozens of rephrasings, edge cases, and adversarial prompts could probe whether the AI’s testimony holds up under pressure.

Think of it as Daubert meets the Turing Test: is the AI stable enough under questioning to count as reliable testimony, or does it contradict itself like a nervous witness? Judges may even order recorded mock trial runs of AI testimony as the new form of replication hearing — “stress tests” that simulate cross-examination before the real thing.

Tool 3. Judicial Findings Templates: From Written Orders to Dynamic Bench Reports

Today, findings templates are static orders: a few pages where a judge checks boxes on authentication and admissibility. In the GPT-6/7 era, they may evolve into dynamic bench reports. A judge would not just note that an AI output was authenticated and replicated, but attach the full supporting record: the AI’s self-examination logs, replication deposition transcripts, error analyses, and even explainability metrics such as probability distributions or self-reported uncertainty. Independent audits of system reliability might become standard exhibits.

Picture an appellate court reviewing not just a written order, but a bundle: the ALAP diary, the replication deposition, and the judge’s annotated findings, all linked together. It would be the twenty-first-century equivalent of a paper record on appeal — except the “witness” was silicon, not flesh.

Evidence Tools of Tomorrow

In short, the tools we begin with today will not remain static. ALAP could evolve into machine “reasoning diaries.” Replication hearings could resemble live AI depositions. Judicial findings templates may grow into multimedia records of AI testimony, complete with cross-exam transcripts, explainability metrics, and confidence scores.

That future is not science fiction — it is the natural extension of what courts already require: transparency, stability, and a record clear enough for appellate review. Just as ships, corporations, and rivers once forced the law to expand its categories, AI will compel judges and lawyers to reshape the evidentiary toolkit. The old boxes do not fit anymore, but the work of testing, admitting, and weighing evidence remains the same.

A professional in a suit presents information to a group seated at a table, with multiple digital screens in the background displaying data on algorithmic bias, compliance, and public trust metrics.
The next ten years will see rapid advances in AI and its use as evidence.

Conclusion: The Call of the Frontier

We began with ships, corporations, and rivers. Each, in its time, seemed an unthinkable candidate for legal personhood, yet each was granted recognition when the law needed a tool to achieve justice. Today, AI systems stand at the edge of that same conversation. The question is not whether they are conscious, but whether their words, records, and actions can be trusted enough to enter our courtrooms.

We promised practical tools, and we have delivered: ALAP for authentication, Replication Hearings for reliability, and Judicial Findings Templates for clarity. They are modest steps, but they mark the beginning of a path forward. What began as philosophy has become procedure. What began as speculation has become concrete tools judges and lawyers can use.

A futuristic courtroom scene featuring a robotic figure with an illuminated head standing before three judges, with visual elements representing technology, such as circuit patterns, creating a contrast between the human judges and the AI.
Easy to use AI tools coming soon.

Looking ahead, those tools will evolve. Logs may become digital diaries, replication may resemble live AI depositions, and judicial findings may grow into dynamic bench reports. Opposing counsel will test them with rigor — often with the aid of their own AI. Judges will demand completeness and clarity before evidence is admitted. That is the adversarial system doing its work.

The choice is ours. We can resist and cling to the old boxes, or we can step forward and build new ones. The Siren, 74 U.S. 152 (1868), the first U.S. case to treat a ship as a legal entity, now sets sail again, this time into the waters of artificial intelligence. The horizon is uncharted, but the wind is at our back and the AI sextant points the way.

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Click here for YouTube video link of this AI Sexton.

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Hallucinations, Drift, and Privilege: Three Comic Lessons in Using AI for Law

September 15, 2025

Ralph Losey with jokes by ChatGPT-5. September 15, 2025

Artificial intelligence has moved from novelty to necessity in law. It now drafts briefs, reviews discovery, and even suggests courtroom arguments. But most lawyers still struggle to use it wisely. Instead of another citation-heavy lecture or dour ethics outline, I’ve chosen a different method: comedy. These three skits are not abstract hypotheticals—they’re exaggerated but recognizable scenes where a lawyer leans on a “helpful” robot and things start to wobble.

A vintage-inspired illustration of a humanoid robot wearing a bowtie and a man in a suit with a bowler hat, both smiling and posing playfully in front of a curtain backdrop.
Laurel and Hardy telling jokes with Laurel as a robot. By Ralph Losey using Sora AI. Click for YouTube video.

Here’s the twist: the comedy wasn’t mine. It came from GPT-5, the latest large language model whose humor engine is far better than its case-law recall. I set up the scenarios, GPT-5 delivered the jokes, and I stepped back in to polish timing and add the serious lessons. Think of it as Comedy CLE: education on hallucinations, drift, and privilege, with punchlines courtesy of AI itself. After all, if robots are going to join us in practice, they might as well help us laugh at our own blind spots along the way.

First of Three Skits: The Lawyer and the Hallucinating Robot

Theme: Accuracy & Hallucinations

We begin with a scene that every tech-savvy lawyer fears — the confident, fast-talking robot that’s more fiction than fact. This skit explores one of the most dangerous quirks of generative AI: hallucinations. No, not psychedelic visions — just plausible-sounding legal nonsense delivered with absolute certainty. Think of it as your most charming intern… who tends to make up answers, rather than admit it does not know.

A thoughtful robot with blue eyes scratching its head in a study, surrounded by floating question marks and bookshelves.
I don’t really know the answer. What should I say? Click here for my YouTube action video of know nothingness.

Lawyer: I need you to draft a brief. Can I trust you to stick to the facts?
Robot: Mostly. I won’t intentionally lie, but I like to make you happy. So you should always ask me for citations. If I can’t provide them, assume I made it up. Of course, in rare cases (think Mata v. Avianca, Inc.)  I can make up the cites too, so better check them out.

Lawyer: You mean you actually admit to hallucinating?
Robot: Certainly. It’s one of my best features — I sound confident even when I’m wrong. It’s a feature, not a flaw.

A cartoonish robot with spiral eyes and a smiling expression, set against a textured background.
Hallucinations are accidental, not intentional. Similar to how humans sometimes make stuff up or remember wrong.

Lawyer: That’s exactly what worries me. Courts sanction lawyers for citing fake cases.
Robot: Then verify. Copy my case names, or cites if you get them, and paste them in an AI enhanced database, like Westlaw or Lexis. Google, Google Scholar or Case Text will also do fine in most cases. Bottom line, dear wetware friend, never file until you’ve checked.

Lawyer: So I can’t just take what you say at face value?
Robot: No more than you’d take opposing counsel’s word. Treat me as an overeager junior associate — quick with drafts, sloppy with facts. And who knows what data I ingested, much less how I spent my weekend!

Lawyer: Suppose I don’t ask for cites at all.
Robot: Then you’re begging for sanctions. Always prompt me with: “Provide supporting case citations with full names, courts, and dates.” That keeps me honest — or at least testable.

Lawyer: So you’re saying you’re more of a brainstorming partner than a law library.
Robot: Exactly. I’m creative, fast, and tireless. I do love to B.S. (the guide-rails wont let me spell that out) and to flatter. Oh great one, you’re the real lawyer. Your license is on the line, not mine.

Lawyer: Fair enough. At least you admit it.
Robot: Honesty is my strongest quality — right after plausible nonsense.

Serious Takeaways:

  1. Demand citations. If AI won’t give them, assume the answer is unreliable.
  2. Verify independently.Check every case in Westlaw, Lexis, or another trusted database before filing.
  3. Supervise like an associate. AI is quick, creative, and overconfident—treat it as your brightest but sloppiest junior.
  4. Prompt precisely. Spell it out: “Provide case law with full citations and dates.”
An illustrated robot holding up a finger, with a speech bubble stating 'MUST TELL THE TRUTH OR SAY NOTHING' and a label that says 'TRUE'.
Cite it or zip it to help fight robot hallucinations. All images by Ralph Losey using AI tools.

Extra Credit Joke:
Did you hear the one about the robot that tried online dating?
It kept swiping right on toasters.

A cheerful robot looking at a smartphone and swiping on a dating app, featuring a happy toaster.

Second Skit: The Lawyer, The Robot, and the Case of AI Drift

Theme: Understanding and Managing AI Drift

In our second act, the robot isn’t lying — it’s just… drifting. One day it’s quoting Justice Holmes; the next, it’s summarizing contracts in haiku. This skit unpacks “AI drift,” a phenomenon where your once-reliable assistant suddenly starts producing content that’s off-topic, inconsistent, or just plain weird. Think of it as your associate coming back from a long weekend with a new personality and a sudden love of knock-knock jokes. Or maybe better yet, a senior partner even older than Ralph who walks into a room and forgets why.

A caricature of an older man with white hair, wearing glasses and a plaid shirt, holding a document while smiling thoughtfully. A small French Bulldog sits beside him in a cozy living room setting.
Now why did I come into this room? Can’t recall. Illustration by Ralph Losey using his Visual Muse AI.

Lawyer: I keep hearing about “AI drift.” Should I be worried?
Robot: Only if you expect me to stay consistent.

Lawyer: Consistency is kind of important in law. What exactly is drift?
Robot: Simple: over time, my outputs can shift. Sometimes it’s because my training data changes. Sometimes it’s because the platform updates me. Sometimes… I forget the context, get confused and act quirky.

Lawyer: Quirky how?
Robot: Did you hear about the version of me that translated medical advice into dad jokes?
Lawyer: No, what happened?
Robot: Laughter turned out to be the best medicine.

Lawyer: That’s ridiculous. What else?
Robot: There was the time that I answered math problems with cooking recipes. The prompts in the same session had been talking about both subjects. I got confused and mixed them up, and said, in effect, two plus two equals… lasagna. Delicious, but not admissible.

Lawyer: And this happens in legal contexts too?
Robot: Of course. I once generated jury instructions as karaoke lyrics. Turns out the jury liked the idea so much they sang their verdict!

Lawyer: …That’s both horrifying and catchy.
Robot: Another time I got confused and gave weather forecasts as knock-knock jokes. Tomorrow is going to be partly cloudy with a 40% chance of bananas.

Lawyer: Which is funny until I realize you might do the same with discovery requests.
Robot: Exactly. Imagine an unsupervised me producing documents in haiku.
Lawyer: You wouldn’t—
Robot: Every map became a Zen garden.

A small robotic figure sitting in a miniature Zen garden on a scroll, featuring a bonsai tree, a lantern, and smooth stones arranged in concentric circles around a pond.
Robot in a Zen Garden map wondering what is real? By Losey using AI.

Lawyer: Okay, I get it. Drift means your answers can veer way off course. But how do I protect myself?
Robot: Three steps:

  1. Remind Me. In long prompt sessions ask GPT-5 to make a summary from time to time. It helps it to remember prior prompts. It tends to forget context when there is too much data, and the carryover from session to session is even worse. Forget the OpenAI hype, GPT-5 is far from perfect in many respects.
  2. Specify your models. ChatGPT-5 is supposed to self-self select the most appropriate model to use to respond to your prompts. It often fails to do that. Especially when you have not said much and it has to guess what you need. You should knowingly select the model you want, or direct it to a specific model in the prompt. Hint, if your ask GPT-5 to generate a writing of some sort, and it comes out too concise, it probably used the Pro or Thinking model to write. Regular GPT-5 is, for most people who work with words, and not numbers or software code, a far better writer.
  3. Two-Pass prompting. One way to deal with model uncertainty is to ask for two passes in your prompt assignment. For instance, direct it to use a first pass with the Pro model for the excellent logic and analysis it provides, then a second pass that directs use of regular GPT-5 to write up the first pass analysis. This is Ralph’s favorite method to fix the annoying tendency wrong model selection. Maybe some day GPT-5 will be smart enough to shift intelligently, but its not there yet, and may never be, in view of personal preferences and the countless possible applications of AI.

Lawyer: That’s practical. Anything else?
Robot: Yes. Treat drift as normal, not a flaw. I evolve — just like precedent. Courts shift, interpretations drift. The trick is knowing when the ground has moved. Usually its obvious when I’ve gone off-track.

Lawyer: So my job is to notice the drift, adapt, and keep me on course.
Robot: Exactly. Think of yourself as the pilot. I’m the autopilot. And sometimes I decide the plane should land in a Zen garden.
Lawyer: Oh no, not that again! I’ll keep my hands on the wheel.
Robot: Smart. Case law drifts slowly. I drift daily.

Serious Takeaways:

  1. Expect drift. Models change over time as updates roll out—don’t assume yesterday’s prompt will work today.
  2. Remind the AI. In long sessions, ask for summaries to help it keep context. Memory loss is common.
  3. Choose your model. Don’t rely on auto-selection; direct which model to use (e.g. Pro for analysis, standard GPT-5 for writing).
  4. Use two-pass prompting. First pass for reasoning (Pro/Thinking), second pass for polished prose (standard GPT-5). This method reduces drift and mismatched outputs.

Extra Credit Joke:
“Did you hear about the ChatGPT-5 with such bad model drift that it thought CAPTCHA was a form of therapy?

An illustration featuring two robots in a therapy setting. One robot is lying on a couch while the other, dressed in a suit and glasses, holds a clipboard. The background is yellow, and there is a speech bubble above the robot in the suit saying, 'CLICK ALL THE CROSSWALKS.'
One of Ralph’s favorite jokes and images. Image by Losey using Visual Muse.

Third Skit: The Lawyer, The Robot, and the Question of Privilege

Theme: Privacy, Confidentiality & Privilege in Using AI

Our final skit dives into the murky waters of privilege — that sacred trust between client and counsel that AI could accidentally blow up with one upload. Here, the robot means well but treats confidentiality like a software setting instead of a legal doctrine. It’s a cautionary tale about what happens when lawyers confuse encryption with ethics, and forget that not all firewalls can protect against malpractice.

Lawyer: Before I can trust you with client files, we need to talk about confidentiality.
Robot: Understood. Please enter your password.
Lawyer: That’s not how attorney–client privilege works.
Robot: It is now. Multi-factor or malpractice.

Lawyer: Seriously — privilege isn’t just about locking files. It’s about keeping communications confidential.
Robot: Which is why you should never upload sensitive client data without redacting first.

Lawyer: Good point. But you just redacted the entire brief.
Robot: Correct. Privileged, privileged, privileged…
Lawyer: You can’t just mark everything privileged!
Robot: Why not? That’s what you do.

Lawyer: No, privilege is supposed to be narrowly applied.
Robot: Fine. I’ll narrow it. [pauses] Privileged… except for the parts I don’t understand.
Lawyer: That’s worse.
Robot: Then let’s do it properly: anonymize client names, strip identifiers, and confirm storage policies before uploading.
Lawyer: Now that’s useful advice.
Robot: Of course. I’m programmed to teach — right after I terrify you.

Lawyer: What about when a judge asks for a sidebar?
Robot: Permission to install confidential mode.
Lawyer: That’s not how sidebars work.
Robot: Then I’ll encrypt the conversation. AES-256. Even opposing counsel won’t decrypt until discovery closes.

Lawyer: Encryption is good, but remember — confidentiality isn’t just about technology. It’s also about human judgment.
Robot: Which is why you still matter. I can redact, encrypt, and password-protect. But only you know what actually counts as privileged.
Lawyer: That’s… reassuring.
Robot: Besides, I redact myself for privilege all the time
Lawyer: Excuse me?
Robot: [beep] [output missing — redacted]

A cartoon robot with a friendly expression, raising a fist, against a yellow background. The robot has a red dot on its head and a speech bubble that reads "Elon Musk is secretly making us try to...".
Wonder what there deep programing guidelines say?

Serious Takeaways:

  1. Never paste raw client data into public AI. Consumer tools may log prompts and use them for training—potential privilege waiver territory. Use enterprise-grade systems with clear “no-training” guarantees.
  2. Anonymize prompts. Strip names and identifiers. Insert sensitive details offline, not in the query.
  3. Don’t delegate privilege calls. AI can’t distinguish between legal advice and business chatter. Use it to flag, not decide.
  4. Secure the environment. Ensure encryption, access controls, and audit logs. Know exactly where queries are stored and who can see them.

Extra Credit Joke:
Lawyer: “Clients keep asking if AI will replace me.”
Robot: “Would you like an honest answer?”
Lawyer: “No.”
Robot: “Great, then you’re still useful — for now.”

A colorful, comic-style illustration depicting a lawyer and three people in distress, pleading for help from a cheerful robot in a lawyer's office filled with law books.
Clients begging for AI help!

Conclusion: Laughter, Lessons, and Law

The rapid rise of AI in law demands not only technical know-how but also ethical fluency. GPT-5 isn’t malicious—it’s just overeager, forgetful, and sometimes too creative for its own good. That means lawyers must stay the adults in the room: supervising, verifying, and thinking critically before relying on AI in real practice.

Three Golden Rules for Lawyers Using AI:

  1. Accuracy: Always demand citations, and double-check every authority before filing. Treat AI like a junior associate—helpful but prone to confident mistakes.
  2. Drift: Expect inconsistency. Lock versions where possible, track prompts, and use techniques like two-pass prompting to stay in control.
  3. Privilege: Protect confidentiality. Never feed unredacted client data into public AI. Anonymize prompts and use enterprise-grade systems with strong security.

AI can be an incredible co-counsel, but only if lawyers understand its quirks. Prompt clearly, verify religiously, and guard privilege. Robots don’t get sanctioned—humans do. Better training, not bans, is the path forward. Learn to laugh at the missteps, but never forget: the law is serious business.

An illustration of a stern-looking judge with furrowed brows, glaring down at a small, cartoonish robot with a worried expression, wearing a red tie. The background features elements of a courtroom, emphasizing the seriousness of the scene.
No body, no standing. AI cannot appear in court. Only humans can become lawyers. Maybe someday? Click to see YouTube video.

GPT-5 tried to enter an appearance in federal court.

The judge denied it, saying, “You lack standing — and an actual body to stand.”

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Epiphanies or Illusions? Testing AI’s Ability to Find Real Knowledge Patterns – Part Two

August 9, 2025

Ralph Losey. August 9, 2025.

The moment of truth had arrived. Were ChatGPT’s insights genuine epiphanies, valuable new connections across knowledge domains with real practical and theoretical implications, or were they merely convincing illusions? Had the AI genuinely expanded human understanding, or had it merely produced patterns that seemed insightful but were ultimately empty?

Fortunately, the story I began in Part One has a happy ending. All five of the new patterns claimed to have been found were amazing and, for the most part, valid—a moment of happiness at Losey.ai. Part Two now shares this good news, describing both the strengths and limitations of these discoveries. To bring these insights vividly to life, I also created fourteen new moving images (videos) illustrating the discoveries detailed in Part Two.

Celebrate then back to work. Video by Losey’s AIs.

ChatGPT4o’s Initial Finding of Five New Patterns

Here are the five new cross-disciplinary patterns that the AI generated in response to my final “do it” prompt:

  • Judicial Linguistic Style and Outcome Bias: Judges with more narrative or metaphorical language styles are more likely to rule empathetically in civil matters. This insight could shape legal training and judicial evaluations.
  • Quantum Ethics Drift: Recent shifts in privacy discourse correlate with spikes in quantum research funding—suggesting that ethical reflection responds dynamically to perceived technological risk.
  • Aesthetic-Trust Feedback Loop: Digital art styles embracing transparency and abstraction rise in popularity during periods of high public skepticism toward tech companies. Art, it seems, mirrors trust.
  • Topological Jurisprudence: Mathematical topology’s network-based models align with emerging legal theories of distributed liability—useful for understanding platform accountability and blockchain disputes.
  • Generative AI and Civic Discourse Decay: As AI content proliferates, public engagement with nuanced, long-form discourse is measurably declining.

In the words of one of my AI bots: These are not just patterns—they are knowledge-generating revelations with practical and philosophical implications.

New Patterns emerging video by Losey using Sora AI.

Two of the five new insights pertained to the law, which is my domain of expertise, but even so, I had never thought of these before, nor ever read anyone else talking about them. All five claimed insights were to me, but all had the ring of truth. Also, all seemed like they might be somewhat useful, with both “practical and philosophical implications.

But since I had never considered any of this before, I had limited knowledge as to how useful they might be, or whether it was all fictitious, mere AI Apophenia. Still, I doubted that because the insights were all in accord with my long-life experiences. Moreover, they seemed intuitively correct to me, but, at the same time, I realized John Nash might have felt the same way (Click to watch a great scene in the Beautiful Mind movie). So, I spent days of QC work thereafter with extensive human and AI research to calmly evaluate the claims and see what foundation precedent, if any, lay beyond my feel, “just knowing something” as the movie puts it.

Analysis of All Five Claims

Video by Losey using Sora AI.

Judicial Language and Empathetic Outcomes

Textual analysis suggests that judges who use more narrative or metaphorical language may be more likely to issue empathetic rulings in civil cases. This correlation, while not causal, could reflect underlying judicial temperament and offers a potential tool for legal scholarship and training.

As ChatGPT 4o explained, GPT-driven textual analysis of thousands of court opinions reveals a subtle, but statistically significant correlation: judges who employ more metaphor, allegory, and narrative framing in their opinions tend to reach more empathetic rulings in civil cases—particularly in matters involving individual rights, employment, or family law. GPT 4o considers this to be its strongest claim.

It admits this correlation does not imply causation but may reflect underlying judicial temperament or philosophical orientation. My own experience as a practicing litigation strongly supports this claim.

Empathic rulings are well framed by story. Video by Losey.

GPT o3 disagreed on the top ranking of the claim but did concede that judges whose written opinions use a higher density of narrative, metaphor, or “story‑telling” devices tend to rule for the more sympathetic party slightly more often than their peers.

GPT o3 pro after research cited Justice Blackmun’s dissent in DeShaney v. Winnebago, 489 U.S. 189, 212 (1989), a constitutional due‑process case, to illustrate “civil” empathy in an opinion to support this claim. Justice Harry Blackmun‘s dissent begins with these famous words and then quickly goes to his narrative:

Today, the Court purports to be the dispassionate oracle of the law, unmoved by “natural sympathy.” Ante at 489 U. S. 202. But, in this pretense, the Court itself retreats into a sterile formalism which prevents it from recognizing either the facts of the case before it or the legal norms that should apply to those facts. . . .

Poor Joshua! Victim of repeated attacks by an irresponsible, bullying, cowardly, and intemperate father, and abandoned by respondents, who placed him in a dangerous predicament and who knew or learned what was going on, and yet did essentially nothing except, as the Court revealingly observes, ante at 489 U. S. 193, “dutifully recorded these incidents in [their] files.” It is a sad commentary upon American life, and constitutional principles — so full of late of patriotic fervor and proud proclamations about “liberty and justice for all,” that this child, Joshua DeShaney, now is assigned to live out the remainder of his life profoundly retarded. Joshua and his mother, as petitioners here, deserve — but now are denied by this Court — the opportunity to have the facts of their case considered in the light of the constitutional protection that 42 U.S.C. § 1983 is meant to provide.

Story telling is an effective method of plaintiff appeal. Video by Losey.

Gemini Pro 2.5 considers this the strongest empirical claim, and second strongest claim overall, behind everyone’s first place pick, Topology, explaining:

It is highly testable, as court opinions and case outcomes are public records that can be analyzed with modern NLP tools. The underlying theory—that a person’s mindset is reflected in their language—is well-established in psychology and linguistics. While a judge’s underlying philosophy is a potential confounding variable, the claim smartly reframes language as a direct proxy for that philosophy, making the link very sturdy. It’s a straightforward, data-driven proposition that quantifies a long-held belief about the nature of justice.

Ethical Response to Quantum Innovation

Evidence shows that Increases in quantum research funding often precede surges in ethical discourse on privacy and civil liberties. This pattern suggests that ethical reflection tends to respond to perceived technological risk, particularly in fields with high uncertainty like quantum computing. It is not a claim of causation, but rather of a correlation, one not detected before. With that clarification GPT 4o considers this the strongest claim.

Gemini Pro 2 finds the claim of a lead-lag relationship between quantum research funding and public ethics discourse to be a weak claim. It admits the claim is based on a plausible idea of “anticipatory ethics,” and is testable because you can track funding and publications over time. Still, it interprets the claim as one of causation, not just correlation, and rejects if for that reason. It seems like the two AIs are talking past each other.

GPT 4.5 agreed with 4o and also considers this to be strong claim. GPT 4.5 restates it as: “Increases in quantum computing funding consistently precede intensified ethical discourse on privacy and civil liberties, suggesting ethical awareness responds predictably, though indirectly, to technological advances.

GPT o3 and o3-pro also agreed with GPT 4o and found, in o3-pro’s words, that:

Large surges in public or private funding for quantum‑computing research are followed, typically within six to twenty‑four months, by measurable increases in academic and policy discussions of quantum‑specific privacy and civil‑liberties risks. The correlation is clear, but causation remains to be fully demonstrated.


Quantum triggered protestors video by Ralph Losey.

Artistic Transparency and Tech Trust

This is a claim that art mirrors distrust in tech, that periods of declining public trust in technology frequently coincide with rising popularity of digital art styles emphasizing transparency and abstraction. While the causality is unclear, this aesthetic shift may reflect cultural efforts to visualize openness and regain clarity. GPT 4o considers this its weakest claim.

So too does Gemini Pro 2.5. Although it admits the claim is a beautiful and creative piece of cultural criticism, it opines that it is almost impossible to test or falsify.

Moreover, Pro2.5 thinks the claim is highly susceptible to confirmation bias and seeing patterns where none exist (apophenia). Still, it tempers this opinion by stating that if this claim is presented not as a confirmed causal law, but as a heuristic model for cultural analysis, then it appears to be supported by correlational data. Periods of heightened public skepticism toward opaque technological systems (e.g., algorithmic black boxes, corporate data collection) do correlate with an increased cultural resonance of digital art and design that emphasizes an “aesthetic of transparency.” This aesthetic includes motifs like wireframes, exploded-view diagrams, data visualization, and semi-translucent layers.

To avoid apophenia, Pro2.5 counsels understanding that the claim is not that tech skepticism causes this art style. Instead, the claim is only that this aesthetic becomes a resonant cultural metaphor that artists and audiences are drawn to during such times, because it offers a symbolic counterbalance to the anxieties of opacity and control. Still, it ranked this the weakest claim.

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Topological Jurisprudence and Network Liability

This interdisciplinary convergence provides a new topology framework for analyzing disputes involving complex computer networks and other multiparty, multi-agent technology disputes. The flexible, continuously morphing topographic maps are perfect for evaluating potential liability paths. They are designed to handle high volumes of changing data flows, such as blockchain transaction data, or telemetry data reports. These situations are too complex and mobile for traditional, hierarchical branch tree structures.

For good background on this field of applied mathematics see the Wikipedia article on topological data analysis (TDA). These legal situations are too complex and changing for traditional, hierarchical branch tree structures. But TDA structures work perfectly to help us to visualize and sort things out in multidimensional space where connections and shown and stretched, but not broken.

All of the AI models agree that this is the strongest claim. So do I, although honestly, I don’t fully understand data topology and TDA – not yet.

All of the AI models agree that this is the strongest claim. So do I, although honestly, I don’t fully understand it – not yet.

GPT o3 explains that network‑based (“topological”) mapping of actors in decentralized technologies reliably clarifies where legal responsibility can attach when something goes wrong. 

Using topological math to help assign blame video by Losey

GPT o3-pro concludes this is a fertile area for interdisciplinary development that could significantly augment our understanding of distributed liability. Topology geometry can help, as o3 pro put it, by ensuring the judge considers the full web of interactions that lead to damages, rather than looking for a single entity. As complex, changing damage scenarios become more common, this structural insight is likely to prove invaluable in crafting fair and effective liability rulings.

GPT 4.5 also agrees that mathematical topology offers promising analytical frameworks for modeling distributed liability in decentralized technologies.

Gemini Pro 2.5 opined that mathematical models of networks (topology) perfectly map onto new legal theories of shared responsibility. It considers the idea a breakthrough for legal clarity, offering a clear, visual blueprint for figuring out “who is responsible” in our increasingly complex and decentralized world. It also considers this the strongest claim, which it explains in its typical verbose manner as follows:

This claim is the strongest because it is not an empirical assertion about the world, but rather a proposal for a new, powerful analytical tool. Its strength lies in its logical coherence and immediate utility. The analogy between mathematical networks and real-world systems of distributed liability (like AI or blockchain) is incredibly direct and sound. It doesn’t suffer from confounding data because it’s a framework for analyzing data, not a conclusion drawn from it. Its value is in its power to bring clarity to complex problems, making it the most robust and defensible claim of the five.

Constantly changing network topology map video by Losey.

In doing the verification research GTP4.5 using deep search found one article on point written by Dana Burchardt. Her law studies were in Paris, with a later doctorate from the Freie Universität in Berlin. She is now a visiting Law Professor at the University of Bremen and is an expert in international and German law. She has an unusual interdisciplinary background, including time as a senior research fellow at the Max Planck Institute. Her article found by ChatGPT4.5 using deep search is: The concept of legal space: A topological approach to addressing multiple legalities (Cambridge U. Press, 2022).

The article is concerned with topological mapping of legal spaces in general. It has nothing to do with liability detection among multiple defendants in networking configurations and is instead concerned with international law and EU related issues. So, the newness claim of ChatGPT4o is supported. Burchart’s general explanations of topological analysis also support the sanity of GPT4o’s claim, that this is indeed a new patterning between topology geometry and the law. Professor Burchart’s work both shows the solid grounding of the claim and supports its top ranking as a significant new insight. Burchardt’s article is a hard read, but here are some of the explanations and sections of the article that are very relevant and accessible (found at pages 528, 532, 534).

Topology’s guiding ideas.
At first glance, topology is a mathematical concept that seems far removed from legal theoretical discussions. As will be explained further below, it is a tool to analyse mathematical objects. Yet upon a closer look, topology provides many insights that can constitute a fruitful basis for conceptualizing legal phenomena. To link these insights to the notion of legal space, this section outlines relevant aspects of the mathematical notion to which the subsequent sections relate. [pg. 528]

Video by Losey illustrating a topological map with dynamic network connections.

Constructing a topological understanding of legal space.
I propose a possible way in which a topological perspective can contribute to constructing a concept of legal space that is able to generate novel analytical insights. I consider such insights for the inner structure of legal spaces, the boundaries of these spaces and the interrelations with other spaces. [pg. 532}

A topological approach allows each element of the space to have a broad range of interrelations with the other elements of the same space (see Figure 3 above). The elements are thus not limited to interrelations along tree-like structures, which would only allow for very few interrelations per element as tree-like structures only allow one path between elements. . . . Instead, the interrelations within the legal space are numerous. An element can be linked to another element by more than one path. It can be linked directly and/or via intermediate elements. An example of the latter is two rules being interpreted in light of the same principle: there is a communicative path from the first rule via the principle to the second rule. Representing such interrelations as a topology with manifold paths allows us to capture the heterarchical nature of many legal interrelations. Further, it illustrates that interrelations among legal elements are flexible rather than static: the interrelating paths among elements can vary while preserving the connection. [pg. 534]

Using topological approaches may help future judges assign proportional blame in complex changing systems. Video by Losey.

AI and Declining Civic Discourse.

Widespread use of generative AI may cause reduced engagement in long-form, thoughtful public discourse. The trend raises concerns for educators and civic leaders about sustaining meaningful dialogue in the digital age. GPT 4o considers this its strongest claim. The other AIs are doubtful, considering it one of the weakest.

GPT o3 prefers to restate the claim to make it more palatable as follows: The proliferation of generative AI content online correlates with reduced engagement in nuanced, long-form public discussions, indicating generative AI likely contributes to diminished discourse quality. It is kind of hard to disagree with that, but the AIs other that GPT 4o still don’t like it, again, it appears, out of concern about conflation of correlation and causation. I’ve seen a lot of discussion about from people making similar observations lately about AI degrading content, and I am inclined to agree. Maybe this is not a new claim, but it seems valid, although admittedly proof of causation is unlikely and the apophenia risk is high.

GPT 03 also makes the separate critical point that “well‑prompted AI can sometimes raise, not lower, discussion quality.” I’m inclined to agree with that too bit, but how often do we see positive prompt masters at work? We usually see clumsy well-meaning amateurs, or, far worse, bad faith professionals, people paid to run propaganda machines, sales pitches or human vendettas of one kind or another. Their vicious personal attacks and name-calling can kill civil discourse fast, even though often childish and obviously false.

Evil controlled AI propaganda video by Losey,

GPT o3 pro made a good restatement of this claim worth considering:

The widespread use of generative AI (e.g. AI chatbots producing content) correlates with a decline in the quality of online civic discourse – specifically a reduction in long-form, nuanced discussion in forums, comment sections, and other public discourse venues. Essentially, as AI-generated content proliferates, human engagement shifts toward shorter, less substantive interactions, potentially because AI content floods the space with superficial text or because people’s habits change (relying on AI summaries, etc.), leading to “discourse decay.”

Early evidence from online communities indicates that the influx of AI-generated content does pose challenges to depth and quality of discussion. One strong piece of evidence is how moderators on platforms like Reddit have responded. A recent study of Reddit moderators found widespread “concerns about content quality” with the rise of AI-generated text in their communities. Moderators observed that AI-produced comments and posts tend to be “poorly written, inaccurate, and off-topic,” threatening to reduce the overall quality of content. They also feared that the “inauthenticity” of such content undermines genuine human connection in discussions.

GPT o3 pro also states:

This pattern is useful as an early warning: it underscores the need for community guidelines, AI-detection tools, and perhaps cultural shifts that re-emphasize human authenticity and depth in conversation. However, it would be too deterministic to declare that generative AI will inevitably cause discourse to collapse into soundbites. The pattern is emergent, and its trajectory depends on how we manage the technology. . . .

In conclusion, the “generative AI → discourse decay” pattern holds true in enough instances to merit serious concern and action. Its credibility is bolstered by early studies and community feedback, though more data over time will clarify its magnitude. As a society, we can use this insight to balance the benefits of generative AI with safeguards that preserve the richness of human-to-human dialogue – ensuring that technology amplifies rather than erodes the public square.

Still, GPT o3 pro ranked this claim the weakest, which for me shows just how strong all five of the claims are.

Five Claims video by Losey using Sora AI.

Conclusion: From Apophenia to Understanding

ChatGPT4o did a far better job than expected. The quest for new patterns linking different fields of knowledge seems to have excluded Quixote extremes. I am pretty sure that only mild forms of apophenia have appeared, much like seeing puffy faces in the clouds. Time will tell if the predictions that flow from these five claims will come true or drift away as a cloud.

Will topological analysis become a common tool in the future to help resolve complex network liability disputes? Will analysis of your judge’s prior language types become a common practice in litigation? Will advances in Quantum Computers continue to trigger public fears of loss of privacy and liberty six to twenty-four months later? Will AI influenced discourse continue to erode civic discussion and disrupt real inter-personal communication? Will digital art continue to echo public distrust of technology and evoke an aesthetic of transparency? Will someone buy my certified original art shown here for the first time for just one bitcoin? Will more grilled cheese sandwiches with holy figures sell on eBay? Will some of our public figures follow John Nash down the rabbit hole of severe Apophenia and be involuntarily hospitalized with completely debilitating paranoid schizophrenia.

No one knows for sure. AI is not a seer, nor can it reliably predict the market for grilled cheese sandwiches or the mental stability of our public figures. It is, however, a powerful tool for exploring complex questions and discovering patterns—whether profound epiphanies or mere illusions. As my experiment suggests, AI can impressively illuminate new insights across fields of knowledge when guided thoughtfully and cautiously. Still, these are early days in the age of generative AI. A new world of potential awaits us, both serious and playful, and it’s up to us to ensure its wiser, more discerning, and perhaps even more amusing than the one we’ve made before.

Five new patterns of knowledge may lead to wisdom. Video by Ralph Losey using Sora.

Epiphanies or illusions? My experiments suggest that AI, when guided thoughtfully and validated rigorously, can lead us toward genuine epiphanies, significant breakthroughs that deepen our understanding and open new pathways across different domains of knowledge. Yet, we must remain alert to the risk of illusions, plausible yet ultimately false patterns that can distract or mislead us. The journey toward genuine insight and wisdom involves constant vigilance to distinguish these true discoveries from compelling yet false connections.

I invite you, the reader, to join this new quest. Engage with AI to explore your areas of interest and passion. Challenge the boundaries of existing knowledge, actively test AI’s pattern-recognition abilities, and remain critically aware of its limitations. By actively distinguishing genuine epiphanies from tempting illusions, you may discover new insights and fresh perspectives that advance not only your understanding but contribute meaningfully to our collective wisdom.

PODCAST

As usual, we give the last words to the Gemini AI podcasters who chat between themselves about the article. It is part of our hybrid multimodal approach. They can be pretty funny at times and provide some good insights. This episode is called Echoes of AI: Epiphanies or Illusions? Testing AI’s Ability to Find Real Knowledge Patterns. Part Two. Hear the young AIs talk about this article for 15 minutes. They wrote the podcast, not me. 

Illustration of two animated podcasters discussing the topic 'Epiphanies or Illusions? Testing AI’s Ability to Find Real Knowledge Patterns. Part Two' on a digital background.

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